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FLOAT TUBE FISHING FORUM » Float Tubes, Pontoons and Related Equipment Discussions » Fishing Related Discussions » Are The Inner-harbor Waters Producing Safe Fish For Consuming??

Are The Inner-harbor Waters Producing Safe Fish For Consuming??

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SP Dan

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This is what I heard:

That the mercury levels and harmful-metal levels in most of the bottom feeding fish in the "inner harbor" are too high or unsafe for consuming.
I also heard that Sardines and Mackerel have the lowest levels and that they are the safest to consume.

Maybe someone out there could research this topic and post the actual facts for the anglers that consider keeping their catch from the inner harbors.
Maybe they could rate each of the harbors from the safest to the least safest waters to keep fish from.

I would be interested in knowing the actual truth; and end the hear-say rumors that I hear, about the waters that I fish.
Maybe some else out there would be as interested as well.
Anyone?

Personally ... I'm 100% catch and release.

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That would be great information. Personally I don't keep anything I catch from the harbors.

mthaubs

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Here is a great article to read. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

SP Dan

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Thanx[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Here's one that I located for our coastal waters:

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It has a break down of how much we are allowed to safely consume, which species to consume and which species not to consume in our coastal waters.
I want to believe that these findings also holds true (and more) with our inner harbor waters.

I want to believe that our inner harbor waters may hold even higher levels of DDTs, PCBs, dieldrin, chlordane and mercury in the fillets of the fish.
I'm still looking for inner harbor consumption advisory reports.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Thanx[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Here's one that I located for our coastal waters:

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It has a break down of how much we are allowed to safely consume, which species to consume and which species not to consume in our coastal waters.
I want to believe that these findings also holds true (and more) with our inner harbor waters.

I want to believe that our inner harbor waters may hold even higher levels of DDTs, PCBs, dieldrin, chlordane and mercury in the fillets of the fish.
I'm still looking for inner harbor consumption advisory reports.

SP Dan     <"))><
I have found a report for the inner harbors. It is very long in the tooth tho. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]



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I researched this when I first started fishing this area. Unfortunately, none of the sample points (places where fish were caught for the study) were in the "inner harbors" like Dan is asking about.

I've also searched scholarly papers for research not done by state agencies and I can't find anything specific to inner harbors. I doubt that those studies have ever been done as very few people even know about harbor fishing. Most people either fish open water piers, or get on boats, so they sampled the places where the most people go. It makes sense.

The open water numbers are bad enough. Harbor water isn't going to be cleaner, that's for sure. Heck, they shut down the LAB after damn near every decent rain.

For me, I remember the days before "safe consumption levels" so when I see the whole coast where I live as a Red Zone, I'm out. My safe consumption level is no consumption.

There's also the question of servings. It turns out that a "serving" for safe consumption is only six ounces.

I ask myself... if more than six ounces of the stuff is unsafe to eat, do I really want even those six ounces?

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I agree

SP Dan

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Me too!


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You Guys did a Great job you no your in trouble when you can smell Fuel on your Water's and you can pick that up in most of are Harbor's

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I've been fishing our inner harbors from San Diego to King Harbor to Ventura for almost 20 years now. Grew up angling in these salty ponds since I was like 10 years old. Did a lot of research on how safe the fish are for consumption and there are really no solid information. My family and I really are lovers of anything from the sea although I do always practice Catch and Release on most of my angling species. The way you decide what to harvest and what not to I have concluded at the location the fish is caught and the species. What is available to us is the water quality of harbors. Newport Back Bay being one of the most polluted. Personally, I do not keep any fish for consumption from any of the inner harbors from a float tube. Some of the areas I tube kicks out some toad Sand Bass, Calicos, Sculpin and Halibuts. However, the areas are so far inner harbor, I would not suggest anyone eating these fish. Granted Halibuts are migratory fish and they travel in and out of the harbors. Those bass, they live there. All year round in there rock/dock/tanker structures. They then also eat clams and mussels in the area and we all know mussels are filter feeders. We eat the fish, the fish eat the mussels and the mussels eat all that smuck in our harbors. I will keep a few bass in legal size to about 2 pounds when I fish the break wall area from my skiff. Any areas more inner harbor, I release every thing. Of course, eat fish from our local waters in moderation is the key answer. Stay away from Yellowfin Croaker, White Fin Croaker, Spotfin Croakers, Rubber Lip Perch at all times. Let's face it, we all fish for the sport and we probably all do love to eat fish. Harvest what you think may be safe. Also, I have fished a few Float Tube tournaments with a floating live well and let me just say, when a seal comes to visit your catch in a floating live well, it's not fun! Smile Tight Lines everyone!

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So ... answer me this anyone ...

Knowing all of the evidence that we now know about the existing levels of DDTs, PCBs, dieldrin, chlordane and mercury contained in the fillets of the fish caught in our local harbor waters and caught along our local cloast line, why do some anglers still need to take their kill home to consume and or even worse, feed it to their loved one's? I just don't get it!

To me it's like ... handing a pack of cigarettes to your child .... one ain't gonna kill ya kid! ... eh?!

My 2-cents.

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