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1Question for the group?  Empty Question for the group? Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:29 pm

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I have a question?  I was told that for saltwater fishing more then 2 hooks on a line is illegal.  Does anyone know if this is true.  

The reason I ask is I have a new setup I used and will continue to use.  It has 3 hooks and lures on one line.  
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And if this is not legal then why is this ok.
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2Question for the group?  Empty Re: Question for the group? Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:56 am

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Depends on the species and area, but the rare times I used an umbrella rig, I think I only had one hook.

A friend of mine got a pretty expensive ticket for having the wrong rig setup even though he wasn't actively fishing.

I know that in general, more than two hooks means problems for me (I'm eyeballing my sabiki rod) so it's not really something I even consider.

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3Question for the group?  Empty Re: Question for the group? Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:33 am

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Hey NulodPBall how you been buddy.  Thanks for the info.  It looks like that is for Hailbut session.  I agree managing this 3 rig setup is tough might just move back to the to hook I use to use. 


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4Question for the group?  Empty Re: Question for the group? Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:07 am

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Hey NulodPBall how you been buddy.  Thanks for the info.  It looks like that is for Hailbut session.  I agree managing this 3 rig setup is tough might just move back to the to hook I use to use. 

Yes, that section is for halibut but if you do a page search for "hook" you'll see sections where only 1 hook is allowed, only 2 hooks are allowed, and only 3 hooks are allowed.

And another section where you can't have the 2nd hook too far away from the first hook.

YET the general ocean regulations say that there's no number limitations on hooks

So YMMV.

"28.65. General. Except as provided in this article, fin fish may be taken only on hook-and-line or by hand. Any number of hooks and lines may be used in all ocean waters and bays except:

(a) San Francisco Bay, as described in Section 27.00, where only one line with not more than three hooks may be used.

(b) On public piers, no person shall use more than two rods and lines, two hand lines, or two nets, traps or other appliances used to take crabs.

(c) When rockfish (genus Sebastes), California scorpionfish (Scorpaena guttata), lingcod (Ophiodon elongatus), cabezon (Scorpaenichthys marmoratus), or kelp or rock greenlings (Hexagrammos decagrammus and Hexagrammos lagocephalus) are aboard or in possession, where only one line with not more than two hooks may be used pursuant to Sections 28.55, 28.27, 28.28 or 28.29, respectively."

Overall, I find life much easier if I just stick to one hook, unless I'm using one hook in a fly that I'm using as an indicator on top.

That said, in my earlier life I may have known some people who go out with multiple treble hooks on a snag line setup to go out and catch tilapia by the bucketfuls in the Salton Sea, knowing that they'll all die off anyway by the tens of thousands when the weather gets too warm or they out-eat their food source... With guys in light green trucks occasionally parking on the shore 150 yards away or so (said fishermen having walked out onto the submerged road into the water) glassing them, then giving up because they didn't feel like walking out to check the gear on people just apparently wading around in the water.

Apparently the rangers didn't care if you brought up bucketfuls of tilapia, because they also knew the tilapia would mass die anyway (I was told you could see thousands of them finning their way across the shallows)
It would have been easy to check for the little white spots on the sides of the fish that indicated a snag hooking.

Heaven forbid you go salmon fishing on the American River with even a tiny white nick on your fish other than near the mouth. Sometimes another fisherman's hook would snag the salmon, then you had to just suck it up and release the fish you just landed or risk a pretty big fine.

But at the Salton Sea, if you were openly flaunting the rules with netting, I believe they would charge you $1 per hole.

5Question for the group?  Empty Re: Question for the group? Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:59 am

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Ya I think it's all to vague a rule and maybe something that is used if you are caught really causing serious issues while on the water.  With that said I agree might not be worth the hassle.  But the rig I am using could be a fun rig when they are bitting.


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